Fardalehill - survey comments report

Table detailing survey comments
UserNo Started Ended Status Q1 - Which option(s) do you prefer Q2 - Why have you chosen this option or combination of options?
        Option 1 Option 2 Option 3  
1 08/09/2023 14:28:59 08/09/2023 14:31:08 Completed No Yes No One way traffic will stop cars entering the housing estate and limit traffic flow up and down Bonnyton Road. This appears to be a very workable option. 
2 08/09/2023 14:30:48 08/09/2023 14:34:33 Completed No No Yes It’s the only way we get rid of unwanted traffic once & for all. This way any traffic in the estate are mainly going to be residents coming & going. I know there will still be deliveries but that’s something everyone needs to deal with.
3 08/09/2023 15:20:24 08/09/2023 15:22:04 Completed Yes No No Both other measures fail to control the speed of traffic when moving through all streets in the estate. This was and is the main issue. It is the single largest risk to safety in the estate. I would not even consider the other two options for this reason  as they only impact a small number of residents. 
4 08/09/2023 15:23:42 08/09/2023 15:25:14 Completed Yes No No It will deter traffic cutting through and also cut down the speed of residents. It’s also minimal disruption. The bollards on Prestwick place are a great idea as I have nearly been ran down several times on that bit of pavement.
5 08/09/2023 15:27:06 08/09/2023 15:30:56 Completed Yes No No I feel this is fair to the full estate and will help slow down vehicles on all surrounding roads, keeping children/pedestrians safe. Also the introduction of the the pedestrian fence at pathways is a welcome addition.
6 08/09/2023 15:30:51 08/09/2023 15:32:22 Completed No Yes Yes Do not want speed cushions through out estate. Would prefer chicanes at corners to slow traffic down but not bring it to a halt. speed cushions or bumps as can damage car suspension and tyres therefore bringing more harm than good 
7 08/09/2023 15:28:15 08/09/2023 15:33:01 Completed Yes No No Keeps route open if required for residents  but slows /deters rat  run traffic
In my opinion knockentiber to Bonnyton road should never have been closed
All that was need was speed bumps / or traffic calming , this way we wouldn’t have problems with traffic rat running through prestwick place past play park etc 
8 08/09/2023 15:44:07 08/09/2023 15:46:52 Completed No No Yes I don’t feel people will obey the one way system and I don't want speed bumps as they damage your car. I especially don't want a speed bump near enough outside my drive and don’t believe it will stop traffic using the estate as a cut through. 
9 08/09/2023 15:40:09 08/09/2023 15:47:27 Completed No No Yes Option 1 will not discourage road users from outside estate from using estate as a short cut and likely to see them accelerate more to make up time for slowing down. Option 2 only affective in one direction, but by past history theres a likelihood of drivers ignoring the one way system and going down the wrong way. Option 3 stops the need for any outside users to come into the estate full stop which makes the full estate and residents on bonnyton road safer. 
10 08/09/2023 15:50:38 08/09/2023 15:51:37 Completed Yes No No Will reduce speed and through traffic in the estate. 
11 08/09/2023 15:48:17 08/09/2023 15:51:56 Completed No No Yes I feel that bollards on bonnyton road are the only viable option to ensure the estate is no longer used as a cut through for motorists. Furthermore, I do not wish a speed cushion directly outside my home
12 08/09/2023 15:48:08 08/09/2023 15:52:05 Completed No No Yes reduces the amount of traffic through the estate, making it safer for children playing outside. also will reduce number of vehicles speeding through the estate. 
13 08/09/2023 15:47:07 08/09/2023 15:55:53 Completed No No Yes It’s the safest and fairest way to reduce the amount of traffic within the estate without putting children at risk or any one area having to tolerate the amount of traffic we currently have. I still feel a second exit/entrance in and out of estate is necessary given the size of the estate.
Traffic cushions would affect the aesthetics of the estate and the volume of traffic would remain which increases the risks to safety.  
14 08/09/2023 15:55:23 08/09/2023 15:57:22 Completed Yes No No To reduce the speed at the junction and the whole estate as lots of kids crossing either on foot/bicycle/scooter to go to play park . 
15 08/09/2023 15:57:32 08/09/2023 15:57:54 Completed No Yes No Best one
16 08/09/2023 15:56:39 08/09/2023 15:59:35 Completed No No Yes Closing off the Bonnyton Road is a safer option as it would reduce the volume off traffic using it for a shortcut through the estate. 
17 08/09/2023 16:12:10 08/09/2023 16:13:27 Completed Yes No No Will reduce speeds thought estate rather than 1 area. 
18 08/09/2023 16:13:09 08/09/2023 16:13:44 Completed No No Yes would stop through traffic altogether 
19 08/09/2023 16:12:53 08/09/2023 16:13:59 Completed No Yes Yes Option 1 with speed bumps will not work with this style of speed bump, due to the biggest concern being delivery vans during the day. The vans fit straight over these bumps and there for these bumps will not slow down the vehicles at all.
20 08/09/2023 16:19:27 08/09/2023 16:24:25 Completed No No Yes The safety concerns around the traffic passing through the estate has always been a concern, with little “improvements” implemented, and no real improvement made. The whole estate is used as a thoroughfare for those who reside out with, and traffic travels at considerable speed.
With phase 4 in development this has increased the traffic within the estate considerably, with many speeding down Bonnyton Road. There has been a number of near misses throughout the estate, it is only a matter of time before something catastrophic occurs.
The only real way to put everyone’s concerns at bay, and ultimately make Fardalehill a dagger and more enjoyable location to reside in is by installing bollards on Bonnyton Road. 
21 08/09/2023 16:29:17 08/09/2023 16:30:07 Completed No Yes No Just think will stop traffic going through multiple streets and just keep it to 1 street 
22 08/09/2023 16:37:21 08/09/2023 16:47:01 Completed No Yes No We live in Muirfield Drive and get all traffic coming through estate going past our house.    At 5 o’clock we can hardly get into our drive with the volume of traffic coming past.  Cars fly past our house and around bends with no thought for kids playing or residents.  There have been many near misses outside number  Muirfield Drive.  I feel option 2 would be best for us however there would need to be speed bumps down Bonnyton road to stop cars speeding down here and annoying residents of this part of the estate.
Alternatively access through estate needs to be stopped rather than installing speed bumps as I don’t think these will make enough of a difference. 
23 08/09/2023 16:46:30 08/09/2023 16:47:28 Completed No No Yes To reduce the amount of traffic cutting through the estate at high speeds
24 08/09/2023 16:51:58 08/09/2023 16:56:09 Completed No No Yes Means only residents and visitors in estate which would mean less traffic.  Only concern is that at Muirfield Dr onto Gleneagles Rd drivers do not stop and just come round that corner, the bollard is continually being hit and repaired, if ARA adopting the roads repairing this would cost alot.  I would ask that you consider adding give way lines here to stop drivers to check traffic begote coming out.  I have had a few near misses here.   Option 1 speed cushions won't slow anyone down, chevrons in the road would be better to slow drivers down.
25 08/09/2023 16:59:22 08/09/2023 17:01:06 Completed Yes No No Would slow people down
Option 3 is not fair to those who live near bonnyton and use that exit to get to and from work as it is closer to Glasgow and same goes to option 2 it would be slower 
26 08/09/2023 17:01:29 08/09/2023 17:02:46 Completed Yes No No Helps prevent speeding and also allows those who live in the estate access to their easiest work route
27 08/09/2023 17:31:42 08/09/2023 17:32:36 Completed Yes No No The best traffic calming measure without shutting off roads 
28 08/09/2023 17:30:08 08/09/2023 17:34:09 Completed Yes No Yes This would prevent the use of Bonnyton Road and the estate as a rat run. By closing Bonnyton Road the only traffic will be residents and delivery drivers. Speed bumps and restrictions proposed in option 1 will still be needed to prevent any high speeds through the estate and play park.
29 08/09/2023 17:34:34 08/09/2023 17:35:44 Completed Yes No No Option one is the only option that will reduce traffic without causing extreme inconvenience to the residents of the area.
30 08/09/2023 18:05:41 08/09/2023 18:07:57 Completed No No Yes Option 3 is the best for everyone. Long term we would see an overall dramatic reduction in through traffic as it would be restricted to only residents, visitors and delivery drivers. The message would quickly spread that people can no longer use the estate as a rat run.

This achieves what everyone wants: maximising safety for children and residents by restricting access and reducing traffic flow.
31 08/09/2023 18:08:53 08/09/2023 18:13:15 Completed Yes No Yes I live beside where option 2 is, I have a young family where this may put my young kids at risk with this road which would essentially be a drag strip out of Bonnyton. If option 2 is chosen it would not solve the problem but only move the issue from one side of the estate to the other.
Options 1 and 3would completely stop through traffic and make the estate safe for the residents of fardalehill.
32 08/09/2023 18:43:47 08/09/2023 18:47:11 Completed No Yes No Road bumps will damage my car . I need the route turning right from muirfield drive onto bonnyton road for work purposes. Bollards are a hazard many drivers have run into them .
33 08/09/2023 19:30:04 08/09/2023 19:30:28 Completed No No Yes Stop through traffic in the estate 
34 08/09/2023 19:55:05 08/09/2023 19:56:23 Completed Yes No Yes However bollards are constantly knocked over in the estate with people driving in to them and loosens all the mono blocking which takes ages to get fixed and then the cycle happens again 
35 08/09/2023 20:02:43 08/09/2023 20:05:45 Completed No No Yes This option would prevent the estate from becoming a rat run for traffic cutting through.
It is the safest and best option available.
The other options are not viable due to safety concerns.

It would add a few minutes onto my hair it’s each day but this is something I am willing to do for the reduction of traffic in the estate and the safety of residents. I’m sure most residents would agree. 
36 08/09/2023 20:05:51 08/09/2023 20:06:21 Completed No No Yes This option would prevent the estate from becoming a rat run for traffic cutting through.
It is the safest and best option available.
The other options are not viable due to safety concerns.

It would add a few minutes onto my journey each day but this is something I am willing to do for the reduction of traffic in the estate and the safety of residents. I’m sure most residents would agree. 
37 08/09/2023 20:07:56 08/09/2023 20:16:35 Completed No No Yes I bought my house on Bonnyton Road having been told by Bellway that  the road would never be opened into the new part of the estate that was to be built in front of my house. I was shown plans that supported this statement. My house was sold on false pretence by Bellway! In three years the traffic that passes by my home at speed is outrageous. Closing the road at the end where the council estate starts makes more sense than any other option stopping all traffic cutting through the estate. Sat Nav still shows drivers that this is a through road to Knockentiber & that it’s a 60. I as well as my neighbours on Bonnyton Road have had to flag down drivers due to the speed they travel at it’s been worse since road opened into new phase of the development. 
38 08/09/2023 19:56:42 08/09/2023 20:18:57 Completed Yes Yes No I live at the entrance of the estate it's not wide enough to be the only entrance and exit to full of the estate never mind all the new house on the new phase.
Recently there was work being carried out at the entrance and traffic lights were put up it caused mayhem and the solution  was a post put on Facebook to tell residents that the entrance at Gleneagles Rd was blocked to use Bonnyton Rd so if that was shut or blocked again what would happen?
I was previously told when they shut off Troon Walk that there would never be only one exit to the estate I honestly don't know why this is even being considered now so Troon Walk was shut off and Bonnyton Rd was opened to ease the traffic at Dalmahoy Road. Bonnyton Rd was closed off a year after i moved in and that's when all the problems started so I am definitely going with option 2 to ease the amount cutting through the estate. There is near misses all the time at this entrance as car coming up or down Dalmahoy Rd see the junction clear so cut the lanes to enter only to be faced with a car coming along Gleneagles Rd.
Myself and my neighbours would struggle daily to get in and out our drives especially during peak times. I will be seeking legal advice about option 3 I think it's unsafe and will then move even more problems to the entrace/exit of Gleneagles Rd.
Children live on Gleneagles Rd too or did everyone forget that,  they also need to get to the park also and their friends house safely Its an accident waiting to happen as the kids from phase 3 cross over Dalmahoy Rd and come down Gleneagles Rd to get to thd park also.
Bonnyton  Rd should never have been closed off it should have been upgraded and used for it was used for before Fardalehill was developed
39 08/09/2023 20:16:12 08/09/2023 20:27:35 Completed No No Yes When we moved into the estate in 2016 we were told by Bellway staff that there would never be an entrance at the Bonnyton Rd side. As years have gone by, it’s obvious Bellway say whatever they need to, to sell houses.

We have an issue with through traffic using the estate. And as much as I feel this will impact the residents going about their day to day business, option 3 seems the most fair on residents, and will keep all traffic in the estate, for the estate. It also keeps a free flow of traffic around the estate for residents, rather than closing off roads within the estate. I do think this could lead to a strain on Irvine Road, but then again, this must have been thought of when EAC and Bellway discussed plans all these years ago for this estate to be built.

I would be interested to know if the bollards at Gleneagles place would then be removed, as these were only put in place to stop through traffic. 
40 08/09/2023 20:51:13 08/09/2023 20:55:24 Completed Yes No Yes Option 1, 3 or a combination of both. Speed of vehicles would be reduced by option 1 however wide wheel based vehicles would not have to slow to go over speed bumps. While option 3 would prevent the estate from being used as a through road entirely. 
41 08/09/2023 21:02:15 08/09/2023 21:03:37 Completed No No Yes It’s the safest option for the estate
42 08/09/2023 21:11:50 08/09/2023 21:17:25 Completed No Yes No I feel option 1 wouldn’t slow down the larger vehicles like delivery vans which are a crux of the problem, option 3 would limit the estates own options for access as well as increasing traffic at Munro avenue, more traffic at a standstill is counter productive to climate change
Option 2 would allow people to access the estate still as well as allowing traffic to get to green hill holding more efficiently and reducing the traffic backing up heading to cross house hospital - the road leading up to this proposal already has traffic calming measures
43 08/09/2023 21:13:17 08/09/2023 21:19:27 Completed No No Yes To prevent through traffic as is getting used as short cut for people especially morning and afternoon when children in the estate are going to and returning from school 
44 08/09/2023 21:37:09 08/09/2023 21:39:51 Completed Yes Yes No I think to close off the bonnyton road entrance would just mean a huge increase in traffic at Gleneagles Road. It was a bottle neck when there were temporary traffic lights. A through road at Bonnyton Road makes perfect sense and in my opinion it should never have been closed off.
45 08/09/2023 22:02:50 08/09/2023 22:06:28 Completed Yes No Yes Due to the fact this stops all through traffic through the estate and makes Bonnyton Road safer, also  the inclusion of bollards stop sspeeding within the estate further protecting the children in the estate 
46 08/09/2023 22:06:26 08/09/2023 22:07:47 Completed No Yes No We don't need any of these options. 
47 08/09/2023 23:07:06 08/09/2023 23:07:41 Completed Yes No No Speed bumps are essential.  Too many speeding through estate and danger to children and pedestrians 
48 09/09/2023 04:03:23 09/09/2023 04:09:21 Completed Yes No No I wouldn't like to see bonnyton Road shut off, as that would effectively leave the estate with a single entrance/exit, which could become busy and impassable at rush hour times, due to nuisance parking atthe entrance to the estate which already causes issues when entering or leaving the estate.

Option 2 is not a good idea, due to the fact drivers have continued to try to use that road, in both directions since it became a cycle/pathway, and only recently when it had barriers put up, motorbikes have continued to use it for access. By reopening the road, in one direction, its opening the estate up to misuse, and potential for drivers to sneak up the wrong way.

Option 1 is the best option, although I do fear my car may not appreciate it
49 09/09/2023 05:50:15 09/09/2023 05:51:58 Completed Yes No No Because option 2 will create an increase flow of traffic one way at rush hour etc and option 3 would mean that an increased flow of traffic from newer phases will then be going through the scheme which is not what is required either 
50 09/09/2023 09:06:12 09/09/2023 09:13:15 Completed No No Yes If option three was to go ahead then surely the bollards that are currently in place on Gleneagles Road would need to be removed to allow more choice and better movement of estate traffic?
If the bollards are removed then it gives residents that live on Bonnyton Road and those who have bought/will be moving into the new houses in phase four a betterroute to enter and exit the estate.
If the bollards stayed in place these residents would have an unnecessary long and more convoluted route through the estate on their daily journeys.
I think it is very important that this point is clarified so people can better chose which option they prefer.

PS-Speed cushions would be a waste of time and money.
51 09/09/2023 11:34:57 09/09/2023 11:41:10 Completed No No Yes This is the most sensible alternative and in my opinion should always have been in place. We need to consider the safety of everyone in the estate, children especially, and stop this rat run immediately.
52 09/09/2023 12:12:32 09/09/2023 12:15:26 Completed No No Yes It looks the best alternative of the three options available and probably the cheapest and easiest to implement.
53 09/09/2023 16:45:34 09/09/2023 16:49:11 Completed Yes No Yes My grandchild lives near opinion 2 and lots of children and dog walkers use this pathway - having a one way narrow road would in no way solve the issue of calming the traffic whereas the other opinion may well 
54 09/09/2023 16:47:19 09/09/2023 16:53:28 Completed Yes No Yes I live near option 2 where many kids and dog walkers use this path and transit between the estate to the park and where the future park will be. This will be a safety risk to kids in the estate. Options 1& 3 will only allow residents to enter/exit the estate no through roads. I would happily drive the extra few minutes via Dalmahoy Drive than a quick exit via Bonnyton Road. 
55 09/09/2023 17:54:43 09/09/2023 17:59:16 Completed Yes No No I think this is a measured and sensible option from ARA. Option 2 doesn’t help and we are too far along for option 3. Closing the estate at this point won’t help anyone, delivery drivers who have now mastered routes will be frustrated as will many residents. I believe the biggest issue was the safety of the play parks children and I think option 1 looks like it will help to ensure this. I still believe ROAD MARKINGS at the junctions would also help. 
56 09/09/2023 17:59:45 09/09/2023 18:01:15 Completed Yes No No I think this will deter people using the estate as a shortcut and will help to make the play park safer. 
57 09/09/2023 18:01:30 09/09/2023 18:03:20 Completed Yes No No This will stop cars from cutting through the estate I think and make the roads around the play park safer for the children. I DO NOT want option 3. 
58 09/09/2023 18:03:37 09/09/2023 18:05:36 Completed Yes No No It will make the roads around the park safer. I don’t like option 2 or 3. 
59 09/09/2023 17:37:42 09/09/2023 18:07:35 Completed No No Yes As a resident at the very end of Bonnyton Road, option 3 is the only viable option. We have a home within the estate, and are the last home on....... We chose our home based on Bellway's plans, and this was purely down to the fact that the plot was on a pathway, with no road in front of it. We specifically chose this plot because of this. We have a young son, and we chose this plot for his safety and wellbeing. He has every right to play in our front garden in safety, without the worry of traffic. We also have every right to have the expectation of what was sold to us off plan. I'm sure trading standards would back this up.

To hear that there is a proposed option 2, that would reintroduce a road, is simply not acceptable, nor something that we would ever want to see carried out.

Over the past 3.5 years since living here, we have fought long and hard, with the help of ARA and councillor Lillian Jones, to have barriers installed on the footpath in front of our home to stop the endless flow of illegal traffic continuing to use the path as road. There have been cars crashing, vans and innumerable motorbikes, all driving at speed. We have had the Police involved on several occasions, and have security camera footage of these incidents. Due to the straight road leading to Knockentiber, some drivers continue to use the path as though it was a road. We are sick and tired of having to deal with this, and know for a fact that implementing a one-way road would just further encourage irresponsible road users to drive down the one-way the wrong way, and at speed.

We also feel that option 2 would be an appeasement for those at the other side of the estate, pushing the issue onto us, as opposed to them. This is yet another reason as to why option 2 is not viable. You would be compromising the wellbeing of some residents in favour of others. We then have to live with all the issues that a road would bring – noise, irresponsible drivers, a high volume of through traffic and safety issues.

Option 3 is the only viable option. Closing off the road at the edge of the estate will mean that only those living in the estate will be driving on the roads, and it will  eventually stop the through traffic.

If option 2 is ever implemented, we will be seeking legal advice.
60 09/09/2023 18:05:32 09/09/2023 18:10:38 Completed Yes No No Only viable option, 2 will just cause more traffic using that road. Option 3 shuts off all access meaning us in the new phase have to drive all the way through the estate to leave/enter. Option 1 won’t stop the issue but will slow everyone down, option 3 is a shambles and will have a massive negative impact on the estate. It will force every single vehicle through the estate and will only cause more issues and people will still moan about it! Option 1 is the only answer to slow traffic down. Option 3 shouldn’t even be considered!
61 09/09/2023 18:16:31 09/09/2023 18:20:54 Completed Yes No No It will slow the flow of traffic down and stop people from speeding.

Option 2 is ridiculous as my back door backs on to the proposed new road and people will then cut through the estate from the access at Bonnyton Road and speed all way through to the back road to Knockentiber which was the original reason they put barriers at the end of Bonnyton Road to stop this.

Option 3 will end with a horrendous flow of traffic trying to get out of one access point at the roundabout then resulting in masses of conjestion from the crosshouse hospital roundabout and all the way down irvine road.
62 09/09/2023 18:46:07 09/09/2023 18:47:00 Completed No No Yes The estate needs to be closed off and only used by residents and not through traffic. 
63 09/09/2023 22:44:47 09/09/2023 22:48:13 Completed No No Yes Stops any through traffic atall. The traffic lights at the end of bonnyton road are so slow anyway I still go the other way to come out the estate. So through road not needed. Option 2 will bring more traffic as people will talk about how the road is now open and start using it again but on return trip just have to go through the estate. Option 1 will deter through traffic but not completely stop it like option 3. 
64 09/09/2023 23:54:54 10/09/2023 00:00:00 Completed No No Yes Volume of traffic is as much of an issue as speed of traffic. The estate is now clearly routinely used by many as a short cut.
Traffic would still speed up once over the proposed speed cushion on Prestwick Place, and wouldn’t reduce volume.
65 10/09/2023 11:36:24 10/09/2023 11:43:19 Completed Yes No Yes I think we need to stop the through traffic. But to do this we need to open up another entrance exit into the estate as the only way out and in will be too busy and the roads are not wide enough to accommodate that amount of traffic. Especially with the cars parked on the flow aways.

Could the bike path not be opened as an in and out entrance also? This would also help with the traffic for all the new house rather than having more cars from that part of the estate have to drive past the kids play park. I feel like these options have not really been thought through properly again.

You could also just remove the other bollards from the end of bonnyton road which should never have been there in the first place. 
66 10/09/2023 14:09:22 10/09/2023 14:09:54 Completed No No Yes This is the only option that would stop people.using the estate as a through road
67 10/09/2023 15:55:24 10/09/2023 15:55:58 Completed No No Yes It stops through traffic and only traffic will be residents on the estate 
68 10/09/2023 16:37:20 10/09/2023 16:39:16 Completed No Yes Yes The estate requires more than 1 exit from phase 1&2.
This would require an additional opening.  The speed bump positioning outside houses on option 1 is completely unmanagable in the middle of driveways!! 
69 10/09/2023 18:46:07 10/09/2023 18:52:59 Completed Yes No Yes To prevent people using the estate as a short cut. By having the speed bumps, this will prevent delivery drivers and non residents driving too fast. But in my opinion speed cushions are not wide enough for large vans and they would need to be more substantial than that. I also think the safety rails should be implemented at ends of paths near to the park regardless of the preferred option. And I also think that if Bonnyton Road is to be closed, the current bollards on Gleneagles Road should be removed so that not all traffic has to pass the play park. better Consideration has to be given to the entrance and exit points of the new phase of the estate to prevent all the new traffic from here cutting through the existing phases.
70 10/09/2023 19:16:38 10/09/2023 19:18:10 Completed No No Yes This would stop the cars using the estate as a rat run to avoid the main road. 
71 10/09/2023 19:28:30 10/09/2023 19:32:54 Completed No No Yes Think it is the only way to stop people cutting through. I use Bonnyton Road probably more than Gleneagles. 
72 10/09/2023 19:32:09 10/09/2023 19:33:50 Completed No No Yes Safety for children in that part of estate. Also huge amounts of traffic and speeding from those using that road. 
73 10/09/2023 22:21:56 10/09/2023 22:24:53 Completed No No Yes This option will reduce the volume of traffic coming through the estate but I feel it needs amended. If a bollard is placed on Bonnyton Rd then the current bollards should be removed from the end of Gleneagles Rd. This will allow the new traffic from the new phase of houses a quicker route out and avoid them needing to drive past the playpark.
74 10/09/2023 22:23:04 10/09/2023 22:27:56 Completed No No Yes Option 1 would ruin suspension of cars, cause cars to mount lowered ‘pavement’ and wouldn’t affect large vans.

Option 2 would reverse the original decision to make it a path in the first place, for which they must have had reasons to do so!

Option 3 would cut non-resident traffic however something would need done to allow easier access for the new phase of residents, like removing the bollards from the top of Gleneagles Road.
75 11/09/2023 04:46:51 11/09/2023 05:06:42 Completed No Yes No My choice would be between option 1 and option 2. Option 2 makes the most sense to me. I think as long as the road has traffic calming on it as well it’s the most sensible option. With option 1: speed bumps are not ideal due to car damage but it’s actually the only way to deter non residents from passing through. I think shutting off Bonnyton Road is utterly ridiculous and would effect many ways of life. Yes, this stops the rat race issue but only gives one exit and entrance out of the estate. The school run will be a disaster when exciting out the other side and will back up from the roundabout. This also cuts off access into the town centre and towards Glasgow. But, lets be honest here, residents in our estate don’t want the traffic calming to help protect children like they say it is, they want it for selfish reasons. The only real way to stop the rat race is to open the bonnyton road back up completely. Yes, the few houses on bonnyton road would be effected but, on the grand scale of things, it’s a small percentage being effected and is the only real way to stop a rat race. Yet, residents living there have a bigger voice. If bellway had stuck to the proposed plan in the first place (bonnyton road remaining open) then nobody would be on their high horse. The RA should just pick the safest and most logical option anyway without listening to self entitled residents who think they know everything. Particularly those on Prestwick place and bonnyton road. Never lived in an estate like it. I wonder if residents on annanhill avenue/original bonnyton road/irvine road etc had a say when we started making their road busier. I doubt it.
76 11/09/2023 08:36:34 11/09/2023 08:45:00 Completed No Yes No Seems like the best option to keep traffic moving, And away from the park. Through traffic is fine, (its not a gated community. ) Just not great when its going round a park where kids don't care about road safety.
Using option 3 wont stop them from wandering out in font on my car. And getting deliveries can be a pain already, without turning it into more of a maze.
And they'd probably use option 1 as a ramp for there bikes.
77 11/09/2023 09:21:10 11/09/2023 09:27:36 Completed No No Yes I have observed the majority of speed violations, are from traffic that use it as a through road as the residents of the estate are aware of children and pets. This will illuminate the problem, but I would also like to consider re opening of bonington cycle path as another alternative for an entry and exit point as the estate expands the volume will be massive going through the one street. 
78 11/09/2023 20:29:56 11/09/2023 20:31:55 Completed No No Yes My biggest issue is the people cutting through the estate, this option is the only way to stop that. I feel however if the choice is option 3 would removing the bollards at Gleneagles road be considered as that’ll further reduce traffic flow past the play park 
79 11/09/2023 20:31:59 11/09/2023 20:33:10 Completed No No Yes My biggest issue is the people cutting through the estate, this option is the only way to stop that. I feel however if the choice is option 3 would removing the bollards at Gleneagles road be considered as that’ll further reduce traffic flow past the play park 
80 12/09/2023 12:37:40 12/09/2023 12:39:37 Completed No Yes No It’s the best option, shutting off Bonnyton road will limit access for emergency services and sleepers won’t reduce the number of cars 
81 12/09/2023 20:43:05 12/09/2023 20:44:36 Completed No No Yes To stop cars cutting through the estate.
82 13/09/2023 09:36:12 13/09/2023 09:37:37 Completed No Yes No The issue has always been traffic diverting past the play park. Bonnyton road should never have been blocked off. 
83 13/09/2023 13:48:05 13/09/2023 13:51:12 Completed No No Yes Will stop people cutting through to miss traffic lights on Irvine Road although to help rerouted traffic from phase 4 remove bollards at Gleneagles place to lessen traffic going through phase 2 at play park
84 14/09/2023 15:11:51 14/09/2023 15:18:30 Completed Yes No No Option 1 is reasonable, can be implemented quickly and will be cost effective. Option 2 is an utterly ridiculous suggestion and should be avoided at all costs as removing a public footpath for a major through road is environmentally stupid, dangerous and will be fought through the courts by the residents. What you should be focussing on is traffic calming and speed reduction on Dalmahoy Drive and the main right angle turn to the B road. Cars, vans and Lorries speed up here at over 40mph and it is incredibly dangerous and reckless. Oh and Option 3 will only force more speeding traffic up Dalmahoy Road.

Final thing, if you are going to post a letter through the door for responses at least have the courtesy to supply a pre-paid envelope as not everyone has access to the internet. 
85 14/09/2023 15:11:46 14/09/2023 15:20:19 Completed No Yes No Bonnyton road needs to be reopened even if it’s a one way. This will take some traffic away from Irvine road and reduce cut through traffic in the housing estate.  Estate would also benefit from road markings at junctions where prestwick place meets muirfield drive as there is no clear instructions for drivers. If there is an accident any decision on liability by an insurer is not clear cut.
86 14/09/2023 15:20:26 14/09/2023 15:20:35 Completed No Yes No Bonnyton road needs to be reopened even if it’s a one way. This will take some traffic away from Irvine road and reduce cut through traffic in the housing estate.  Estate would also benefit from road markings at junctions where prestwick place meets muirfield drive as there is no clear instructions for drivers. If there is an accident any decision on liability by an insurer is not clear cut.
87 14/09/2023 17:27:30 14/09/2023 17:28:17 Completed No Yes No The road should never have been closed in the first place. It has generated lots of traffic using the estate as a through road.
88 14/09/2023 17:24:57 14/09/2023 17:29:02 Completed No No Yes Closing off bonnyton road would reduce the through traffic that use the estate as a shortcut 
89 14/09/2023 19:09:23 14/09/2023 19:14:17 Completed No No Yes The estate is continually used as a “rat run” for traffic to avoid the main road. All traffic surveys done within the estate show large volumes of vehicles cutting through, none of which live in the estate, and travelling at high speeds, ultimately increasing safety concerns for all residents. Residents have been frustrated for a number of years now regarding the safety concerns as a result of traffic flow, and this issue is continually increasing with no resolution. Option 3 is the only way to mitigate our concerns. 
90 14/09/2023 19:12:10 14/09/2023 19:14:59 Completed No No Yes Option 3 is the only sensible alternative option in my view.

Option 1 - have limited effect on reducing speed and doesnt resolve the volume of traffic passing the playpark

Option 2 - eliminates half traffic but not those using the estate as a short cut when heading to bonnyton road

Option 3 - inconvenient for all.home owners but the one I would happily select and have that inconvenience to improve child safety within the estate.
91 14/09/2023 19:36:44 14/09/2023 19:37:45 Completed No No Yes The traffic flow in the estate is out of control, so I feel this will help deter this. 
92 14/09/2023 20:44:49 14/09/2023 20:49:33 Completed Yes No No I dont agree with closing off Bonnyton road. For the size of estate it shouldn’t have only one entrance/exit especially when that exit is already too narrow to have a car in each lane.  
93 14/09/2023 20:48:30 14/09/2023 20:50:38 Completed Yes No No There needs to be more than 1 entrance/exit. 
94 14/09/2023 20:50:37 14/09/2023 20:52:00 Completed Yes No No I don’t believe Bonnyton road should be closed off.
For the size of the estate it shouldn’t have only one exit when that exit is already too narrow to have a car in each lane.
95 14/09/2023 22:05:13 14/09/2023 22:09:37 Completed No No Yes Only thing which actually stops through traffic. Even though it will cause me hassle commuting to Glasgow daily.
Only other option is to remove bollards on Gleneagles. Assuming someone with connections to the council/ARA lives on bonnyton road/Gleneagles and has blocked this as they don't want traffic (am I cynical to assume corruption?). This option keeps the playpark safe.
96 15/09/2023 01:42:19 15/09/2023 01:43:08 Completed No Yes No Less disruption but helps traffic issues 
97 15/09/2023 08:00:43 15/09/2023 08:04:22 Completed No Yes No The Bonnyton Road through to Knockentiber should never have been closed.  This should have been inserted into the original plans.  It was already a busy road, prior to the development.  I supposed a one way system will reduce heavy traffic through the estate avoiding the busy children's play area.
98 15/09/2023 08:06:50 15/09/2023 08:08:19 Completed No No Yes But with removal of bollards at glen eagles. This would allow a split of traffic from bonnyton road side and less traffic past the play park at prestwick place.
99 15/09/2023 08:31:32 15/09/2023 08:32:09 Completed Yes No No Cause a like it.
100 15/09/2023 12:38:56 15/09/2023 12:43:51 Completed Yes No Yes slow down traffic and deter non residents cutting through the estate.
101 15/09/2023 15:35:40 15/09/2023 15:46:00 Completed No No Yes Option 1 -  whilst somewhat sensible in theory, penalises those who live in the estate with impact to the suspension of their cars and ultimately does not guarantee to fix the issues currently faced by residents as there is no telling whether it will actually curb reckless or selfish driving.

Option 2 - this is definitely the worst option. Far too lengthy a process involved for another solution which also can make no guarantee to fix the issue, as this will only divert a fraction of the traffic that drives through the estate. I am also wary of the speed at which a number of cars will almost certainly race through this road. It is also unfair to those who have bought their homes on the basis of there being no road there.

Option 3 - by physically stopping through traffic, it guarantees to fix the problem. This is the only workable option that will put an end to what is a dangerous problem.
102 15/09/2023 17:32:43 15/09/2023 17:42:43 Completed No No Yes Option doesn't address reducing volume of traffic through estate and near play patk. Option 2 reduces volume of traffic in estate & near the park by 50% for vehicles travelling west only. Option 3 removes 100% of through traffic to the estate and play park
103 15/09/2023 18:17:22 15/09/2023 18:21:34 Completed Yes No No Option 1 is best option to slow traffic down. Option 2 and 3 would make Gleneagles Road/Muirfield Drive busier with no speed restrictions.
104 17/09/2023 11:06:23 17/09/2023 11:08:35 Completed Yes No Yes I would It seems the best option but I also think if option 3 is approved, The bollards at the end of Gleneagles road should be removed otherwise it will increase traffic past the play park and other houses 
105 17/09/2023 12:40:48 17/09/2023 12:56:56 Completed Yes Yes Yes Surely there should be an option 4, no action required. Save all the hassle and expense.

Option 1 speed bumps.  I will need to negotiate 3 sets of the speed bumps to get in and out of my street. I have small cars which will be impacted more than the larger vehicles who can straddle the bumps, defeating the purpose. You may as well leave the roads to fall into disrepair as potholes will cause the same amount of trips to the garage over the years.

Option 2 one way street. Pretty optimistic to think that drivers will follow those directions. Who is really going to police it. I would side with the residents who live in the area as I wouldn't be happy if I bought a house in a dead end street only for it to become a motorway.

Option 3 Blocking off Bonnyton Road. Don't like the thought of having one way in and out of the estate. There will be more traffic on the Irvine Road outside my house. More noise, more dust, you should see the state of my windows with dust off the road.
106 17/09/2023 17:41:38 17/09/2023 17:44:05 Completed Yes No No This will deter drivers using the estate as a short cut for other routes and also slow down drivers. 
107 17/09/2023 19:26:48 17/09/2023 19:27:42 Completed Yes No No Access to estate is preferred, option 2 closes access to the estate via bonnyton road
108 17/09/2023 20:55:07 17/09/2023 21:32:14 Completed Yes No Yes Option 1 & 3 I feel addresses my concerns, I also feel that if the options were to be successful the bollards on Gleneagles Road should also be removed to allow traffic to flow more freely and not be as concentrated under the potential proposal as my main concern is the volume and speed of traffic in and around the vicinity of the play park as I have witnessed on numerous occasions the irresponsible driving behaviour of  drivers using the estate and feel these options would look reduce this.

 
109 18/09/2023 11:28:47 18/09/2023 12:22:11 Completed No No Yes After having 3 traffic surveys carried out plus the unpublished Atkins report from December 2021 all of which clearly indicate both an increase in volume and speed along Prestwick Place, I find the Option 1 proposal incredulous. How can it be beneficial to install speed tables 7 off, along a street (Muirfield Drive) with a much lower volume of traffic and propose to install 1 speed table on the street with the highest volume and indicated speed? This option would only create more traffic on Prestwick Place as vehicles would be driven to avoid the speed tables which in turn would increase noise levels as well.
Speed tables are ineffective in reducing the speed of commercial type vehicles. The accepted way to reduce both speed and volume is through the use of "Grow Outs" to the existing carriageway to allow it to be narrowed down at several places along its length.We already have these on Gleneagles Road (installed via NMV action)

Option 2: Why have ARA or EAC not carried out some preliminary research prior to putting this forward as an option? Surely it would have made some sense to ascertain if this was a viable option legally before building residents hopes up?

Option 3: This is the only option which eliminates through "rat run" traffic. Unfortunately, this option puts all estate traffic past the folks who live on Gleneagles Road.
To mitigate this, could the stopping off of Muirfield Drive at the junction with Bonnyton Road be considered as an option?
That way only residents in phase 1 & 2 would use the exit onto Dalmahoy Drive. All phase 4 residents would exit onto Bonnyton Road until the road network was finalised, to the satisfaction of all residents, for that phase.
I feel that ARA and EAC have not addressed the issue of the shared surface where vehicles continuously use the permeable paving as an extension of the carriageway. Putting reinforced bollards at all chicane and pinch points throughout the estate would be seen as a way of increasing the safety of all residents.
110 18/09/2023 12:23:12 18/09/2023 12:29:16 Completed No No Yes Closing off Bonnyton Road will prevent through traffic. I would also like to have grow outs throughout the estate not speed bumps to reduce speed. Speed is an issue on Prestwick Place in front of the play park.
111 18/09/2023 19:27:57 18/09/2023 19:32:59 Completed No Yes No Option 1 would not in my opinion greatly reduce traffic entering the estate
Option 3 would not in my opinion be beneficial to residents of the estate.
112 19/09/2023 00:32:11 19/09/2023 00:37:33 Completed Yes No No Closing an exit will only create more of a problem.  There will be a lot more house holds having to drive from one part of the estate to the other to exit and then any delivery vans people accessing the estate will then have to about turn and exit driving more on the estate whereas having two exits means they can come and go with less driving in circles.  Closing an exit won’t stop people driving constantly past the park. Slowing the traffic will make it safer 
113 19/09/2023 08:13:48 19/09/2023 08:17:53 Completed Yes Yes No Shutting off Bonnyton Road would effectively give emergency services only one route into the estate and cause issues at peak times getting knto the Irvine Road
114 19/09/2023 16:00:43 19/09/2023 16:04:20 Completed No No Yes Option 3 will reduce the amount of traffic using the estate as a short-cut. I would however suggest that as part of this option the bollards at Gleneagles Road/Bonnyton Road are removed thereby reducing the amount of vehicular traffic passing the play park on Prestwick Place.
115 19/09/2023 17:48:30 19/09/2023 17:59:00 Completed No Yes No Option 2  preferred
1) There is a new development that will increase traffic along Bonnyton Road so Option 3 would stop traffic from this new development and also from existing development
2) This would allow traffic to proceed along Bonnyton Road and avoid instances where vehicles have previously destroyed barriers, driven over gardens etc to proceed Knockentiber
Option 1 is not preferred but is being imposed - presume council will pay for damaged suspensions 
116 20/09/2023 20:49:04 20/09/2023 21:10:55 Completed No No Yes From the initial enquiry about the house before purchase, I was shown the plan of the plot, and surrounding area, which had no indication of a through road. What was sold to me based on the plan, was a pedestrianised pavement at the front of the house. I am completely against option 2, as this is not what was sold to us from plan, and would constitute us being mis-sold our property. This route I would contest the legality of, and I would seek legal advice if this was ever to be proposed. We have every right to expect to have what we purchased based on the plan, and our young child has every right to play safely at the front of our house, without fear of traffic passing at speed.

We have already have a history of cars, motorcycles and vans placing pedestrians in danger, by driving on the pavement on front of our house. We have had the police involved on several occasions. We fought hard with the help of ARA and Councillor, Lillian Jones, to get the barriers at top and bottom of the path installed, to make the path safe and free of traffic. This has not stopped the motorcycles speeding both up and down the path however. If a road was opened, either one way or both, it would just be an accident waiting to happen. Traffic would be driving at speed, both ways (regardless of any one-way regulations).

From the initial stages of the houses being built, there has been poor planning and consideration of the efficiency of the roads. In relation to the road widths, tight corners, and lack of thought to the volume of traffic –these issues should have been addressed well in advance, as opposed to retrospective repair jobs.

Option 3 is the only option for me. This coupled with the removal of the bollards at the junction of Bonnyton Road and Gleneagles Road would ease the load on being down to one entry/exit road only.
117 20/09/2023 22:06:16 20/09/2023 22:11:49 Completed Yes No Yes My grandson lives beside option 2, I fear for his safety and the safety of other children in the estate who I see playing & passing by my sons house. If option 2 was chosen cars would speed down Bonnyton Road to bypass the traffic lights at the bottom of Munro Avenue creating a new "Rat Run" and only miving the problem not solving the problem. This option would most likely increase traffic flow through the estate.
Option 3 would be preferred choice as this would block all through traffic however a 2nd entrance to the estate would need to be opened up to ease traffic in the sole remaining entrance. 
118 20/09/2023 22:12:42 20/09/2023 22:18:57 Completed Yes No Yes Option 2 would only create a new rat run out of kilmarnock that avoids the crossroads at the bottom of Munro Avenue which may see an increase in traffic through the residential estate and not reduce traffic as this proposition is for.
My grandson lives in the estate where we see cars trying to use it as a rat run, turning at the bottom of Bonnyton Road where my son lives trying to get through the estate.
Blocking off access to Fardalehill Estate from Bonnyton would cease any through traffic and limit traffic to only residents/deliveries or visitors etc.
Clear signage must be erected though to indicate its a dead end at the entrance to the estate.
However to add the once entrance at Troon Walk would have to be opened up again to stop all the traffic for the estate going through Gleneagles Road.
119 22/09/2023 10:52:26 22/09/2023 13:14:35 Completed No No Yes Option 1 (not preferable):

I do not think speed bumps will put off through traffic, safe to say this type of hump is easy to drive over without forcing much of a reduction in speed (especially for commercial vehicles), it will also create a noise/vibration issue.  Also notice only one hump is proposed on Prestwick place which is disproportionate to the other streets thus would still mean Prestwick Place is the preferential route through... In summary, this option will be expensive to implement, will create a noise/vibration nuisance and will NOT solve the issue.  Please note the proposed install of guard rails and bollards shown on option 1 I do agree with and should be implemented regardless of what mitigation option is taken forward – it is imperative that the pedestrian pavement where the ‘chicane’ on Prestwick Place is located is protected against vehicles cutting the corner where the hedge means a driver cannot see a small child on the pavement when travelling Westbound and thus putting pedestrians at risk of being run over.
Worth noting that Speed humps / grow outs would be best placed on the main Spine Road (Dalmahoy) once the entire development is completed.

Option 2 (not preferable):

This option would only be preferable if Bonnyton Road was to be opened to through traffic in BOTH directions however given the information letter states the ARA would have to first establish if there are legal grounds to reopen the road, I think the process will be long and laborious and could be met with disappointment meaning we are effectively back to square one.  This option will also be very expensive to implement and again will not fully solve the problem (unless opened both ways).

Option 3 (preferable):

I like this option and it more or less solves all the issues within the estate so long as the proposed bollards / guard rails on Prestwick place detailed within option 1 are also installed HOWEVER if this is implemented I think it's prudent that the NMV bollards at Gleneagles/Bonnyton Road are also removed as part of this plan as they were only installed to cut off the ‘short through loop’ and thus would no longer be required as the through route would be shut off anyway - this would allow residential traffic to be better distributed within the estate and remove the need for residents/visiting drivers to the North of the estate taking the route through Prestwick Place/surrounding streets and thus past the play park. 
It would also be prudent to reopen Troon Walk by removing the 'emergency access/egress bollards', even one way - this will help better distribute the traffic accessing / egressing the estate as it would be shared with Gleneagles Road (bearing in mind, despite Bellway’s error on the sales plan showing Troon Walk closed off the ARA have stated the approved RCC for Troon Walk was for it to remain open to traffic and it was only closed on agreement the bollards at Gleneagels/Bonnyton Road could be installed to close the short loop...) – again, just like the NMV bollards, the close off point at Troon Walk would no longer be required as the through route would be shut off anyway.

Option 4 (for consideration):

You could close the estate to through traffic where Muirfield Drive meets Bonnyton Road which would allow Bonnyton Road to remain open but stop through traffic via Prestwick Place and surrounding streets, this also means the conditions set-out in the overall master plan are still being adhered to.  The NMV bollards at Bonnyton/Gleneagles Road could stay in place however again it would also be prudent to reopen Troon Walk by removing the 'emergency access/egress bollards', even one way - this will help better distribute the traffic accessing / egressing the estate as it would be shared with Gleneagles Road.  Again, the guard rails and bollards detailed in option 1 should also form part of this plan.

In Summary:

I feel options 3 or 4 will keep the majority of people satisfied and is a balanced approach within the community to solving the traffic issues, namely if Troon Walk is reopened as part of either plans as it will reduce traffic levels at the access/egress section on Gleneagles Road which is likely important if the access/egress at Bonnyton Road is closed off (it seems unfair the residents on this section of Gleneagles Drive have to bear the brunt of ALL the traffic when the approved RCC was for it to be shared with Troon Walk – especially given the width of the road) – whilst I appreciate the current benefit of Troon walk being closed off as it may help put off Eastbound through traffic, it is of absolutely no benefit if the through route is completely shut off at Bonnyton Road.
It's worth noting our title deeds and no doubt many others state the following and clearly show Troon Walk as being an open route to access and egress the estate.
We “have a right of access for pedestrian and non-construction vehicular traffic over all roads made up to an adoptable standard within or to be created within the Development Site including the Spine Road and those roads tinted yellow on the secondary layer of the cadastral map an extract of which is included as supplementary data 1 to the title sheet so far as not forming part of a Unit unless or until such time as the same are adopted by the Local Authority”.
120 23/09/2023 08:34:43 23/09/2023 08:37:07 Completed Yes No Yes While option 1 will help reduce the speed of traffic it will eliminate the volume of traffic in the estate. Option 3 is an inconvenience for some but will allow only those in the estate to use the road.
121 23/09/2023 13:50:36 23/09/2023 13:55:52 Completed No Yes No I think the majority of traffic outwith those that live on the Estate is a shortcut to the Knockentebier back road. If this re-opened it would reduce traffic coming into the Estate.
122 23/09/2023 21:32:36 23/09/2023 21:35:16 Completed Yes Yes No Option 1 may deter people out with the estate, from using the estate as a short cut therefore decreasing through traffic. Option 2 prevents traffic from cutting through the estate and potentially passing the play park. 
123 25/09/2023 09:44:19 25/09/2023 10:05:37 Completed No Yes Yes The Fardalehill (South) estate has been designed with a very narrow roadway system and has only one designated pavement.  Traffic calming was designed into to the roadway on construction with all the roads having discreet "twists", built into them and bollards at strategic points. 

This has not been at all effective and the lives of children are at serious risk of injury and death due to the current, and every rising volume of through traffic.

Option 1., merely echoes the existing calming measures, and will have very little additional effect.

All the homes in this part of the estate are family homes and there is a large number of children on the estate, and the play park attracts additional children from adjacent estates.

With the ever increasing amount of kids (and parents), on bicycles and scoters in our society, which is encouraged for us all to use, the estate is becoming more and more dangerous every day.

The only way to protect the lives of the residents of this estate is to close it completely to through traffic, and hence I strongly recommend option 2 and 3 be adopted at the earliest opportunity.  
124 26/09/2023 16:23:59 26/09/2023 16:25:50 Completed Yes No No It seems the best option to me
125 27/09/2023 21:06:53 27/09/2023 21:14:52 Completed No Yes No We personally do not want “speed cushions” AKA speed bumps! Speed bumps do not slow down traffic effectively and over time destroy residents cars, there is enough pot holes on the road I don’t want to willingly put the an equivalent in. Stopping traffic going up Bonnyton road would affect our daily commute make the already busy Irvine road even more busy. 2 would be our preferred option for the reason mentioned above. 
126 28/09/2023 12:08:35 28/09/2023 12:09:57 Completed No No Yes If we had to choose it would be option 3 however, this then leads to every single piece of traffic coming through the estate to pass by our property, therefore another entrance into the estate would be required, like removing the bollards at Gleneagles. 
127 29/09/2023 10:24:40 29/09/2023 10:30:12 Completed No No Yes This would be helpful,only if the bollards that are currently closing off access from Bonnyton Road to Gleneagles Road were removed,to allow traffic to move towards the one exit from the estate at Gleneagles Road/Dalmahoy Drive with more ease.
Please do not waste money putting speed cushions all over the estate.
(Alternatively don’t make any changes and just leave things as they are.)
128 29/09/2023 14:43:46 29/09/2023 14:47:59 Completed No No Yes It’s the best option for the estate and to cut out through traffic, and make it safe for all residents. Also then the bollards could be taken away from Gleneagles Drive.
The other two options don’t take away the through traffic. 
129 29/09/2023 19:38:49 29/09/2023 19:49:42 Completed Yes Yes No Option 1 - I am in favour of this option to deter through traffic and to regulate/reduce traffic speed.

Option 2 - I am also in favour of this option to reduce through traffic especially considering the increased vehicular traffic from the new development on the opposite side of Bonnyton Rd.

I am strongly opposed to option 3 as this will lead to increased vehicular traffic via Prestwick Pl and Muirfield Dr, especially considering the increased vehicular traffic from the new development on the opposite side of Bonnyton Rd. This will also lead to increased congestion at the already busy junction at Irvine Rd and Munro Ave. 
130 29/09/2023 20:11:44 29/09/2023 20:13:25 Completed No No Yes It is the only one that will limit the number of cars in the estate.

I also think the bollards should be removed in Gleneagles to ease congestion and so less traffic is going past the play park.
131 01/10/2023 13:46:17 01/10/2023 14:09:34 Completed Yes No No Although we have no children of our own living at this address, it is key that whatever option is implemented it is taken with the primary objective of making it safer for the children in this estate to play at the park bordered by Prestwick Place and Castle Stuart Walk.

I do not believe there is either an ideal or an easy solution; nor do I believe responses should be taken as "vote" for what respondents think is the best option, primarily because the decision will be made by professionals within the Ayrshire Roads Alliance.  I also think as the Fardalehill Estate matures, changes in traffic volumes and their routings will mean further analysis will be required and this subject will therefore need to be revisited. 

My preference is for Option 1, although I would like to see the installation of a traffic bollard on the corner at Castle Stuart Walk. 
132 02/10/2023 09:35:09 02/10/2023 09:45:47 Completed Yes No No Whatever decision is made, it MUST address the safety of the children in the estate that play in the park bordered by Castle Stuart Walk and Prestwich Place.

My preference is for Option 1, although I would change the flow of traffic such that vehicles from Castle Stuart Walk give way to traffic on Muirfield Drive. I suggest road markings at junctions and chicanes (including a centre line) throughout the estate as well as physical Give Way street signs and not just road markings.
133 03/10/2023 10:43:26 03/10/2023 10:55:47 Completed No No Yes The heading of the proposals on the ARA plans is ' Traffic reduction measures'  Option 3 is the only option that will actually reduce the traffic flow as there appears to be a high volume of through traffic using the estate as a short cut.

It would also appear logical to consider removing the existing bollards at Gleneagles Road if the stopping-up Bonnyton Road option is approved.

Hopefully ARA will ensure that the current plans for Phase 4 of the estate are implemented in that Phase 4 residents will have there own access to the 'spine road' negating the need to pass through Phase 1 and 2 when exiting the estate.
134 03/10/2023 11:28:27 03/10/2023 11:40:18 Completed No No Yes With all the new development on north side of Bonnyton Road and more children playing I feel this would be a safer option and re-opening this road would lead to a greater volume of traffic and more noise and danger to children.
135 04/10/2023 09:41:50 04/10/2023 10:01:30 Completed No Yes No People going to Knockintiber and Kilmaurs would not have to go through the estate.
136 07/10/2023 10:00:03 07/10/2023 10:02:15 Completed Yes No No Option 1 seems the most realistic and sensible approach for the whole of Fardalehill. The other options will have a detrimental impact to specific streets.
137 07/10/2023 10:02:17 07/10/2023 10:02:21 Completed Yes No No Option 1 seems the most realistic and sensible approach for the whole of Fardalehill. The other options will have a detrimental impact to specific streets.
138 08/10/2023 14:42:44 08/10/2023 15:14:50 Completed No No Yes The accumulated traffic survey data shows the unacceptable levels of through traffic which this estate is subjected too on a daily basis. This is quite frankly dangerous and as a parent of a young child who frequents the play park it has been a constant worry re thier safety. There have been significant failings on behalf of ARA & Bellway to allow this. The further development of housing within the estate also means there is an overwhelming amount of traffic using the pre existing Bonnyton Road which is simply not adequate to deal with this. The only solution I believe is Option 3 which will be to shut Bonnyton Road off. I am a user of this entrance / exit for near 90% of my journeys but I have no problem in having to change this in order for better saftey within the estate if option 3 is implemented. Option 1 fits no purpose as speed is not the over riding issue and option 2 will ultimately be disregarded by motorists when it suits them as it will be a short piece of restricted roadway.
139 10/10/2023 19:10:02 10/10/2023 19:57:52 Completed No Yes No Option 2 is the best of a bad bunch as it gives the option to bypass the scheme entirely (though only in a single direction) which best tries to solve what the main problem actually is - auxiliary through traffic.
The ideal option would be to bypass the scheme entirely by having a full two way road on Bonnyton Road which allows a complete alternative to driving through Muirfield Drive. I understand that the current path/road might not be wide enough to accommodate this, but it's probably stemmed from a developer oversight in order to build plots closer together.

Honestly, the preferable option would be to leave the scheme as is.
Perhaps even remove the bollards at Gleneagles Road to reduce through traffic going past the play park.

Option 1 punishes residents for living in the scheme by having to continually drive over a raft of unneeded speed cushions, adding additional wear and tear and more importantly cost to those who drive. Realistically, it's not a particularly effective deterrent for driving through for third-party drivers, especially commercial vehicles.

Option 3 blocks off a whole access point, meaning much more traffic coming in to the remaining single point of entry - Gleneagles Road. This also will block any additional convenient entrances or exits for emergency vehicles, potentially delaying response time. Potential safety concern.

Not expecting a reply, but this is the first time I have heard about these proposals / discussions (from letter received early September).
Have there been discussions or communications with any residents before this point? If there has, I've had zero indication.
These sorts of discussions should not be exclusive to those on private social media.
140 14/10/2023 09:40:25 14/10/2023 09:41:40 Completed No Yes No Prefer to open up the estate more.
141 14/10/2023 09:41:54 14/10/2023 09:42:14 Completed No Yes No My preference
142 17/10/2023 12:02:51 17/10/2023 12:11:39 Completed No No Yes Option 3 to close Bonnyton Road will finally get rid of the non-resident through traffic / rat-running issue and will vastly reduce the number of vehicles using the estate.  I think it's important to remember the existing bollards at Gleneagles Drive/Bonnyton Road were only installed in an attempt to eliminate the short through route which did not work, if the decision is taken to move forward with option 3 then I and lots of others would like to see the existing Bollards at Gleneagles/Bonnyton Road removed which will allow traffic to be better distributed within the estate.

If the through traffic wasn't bad enough, we now have the addition of Phase 4 traffic using Prestwick Place to access their homes as the main access for these houses off the spine road is well off being open!!!  Phase 4 houses as well as those on Bonnyton Road should be able to access via Gleneagles/Bonnyton Road if the existing bollards are removed and thus further reduce traffic past the play park.

Finally, I would deem it imperative that a bollard is installed at the 'chicane' on Prestwick Place to stop vehicles cutting the corner by driving over the pavement - someone is going to get knocked down here! 
143 17/10/2023 12:13:03 17/10/2023 12:18:54 Completed No No Yes Options explained to our 7 year old daughter who is well aware of the traffic issue, this has been written and submitted by her Dad  and should be taken into account, I quote in her words:

"Our street has too many cars going past and cars are always parked on the pavement and I cant get past on my bike and have to go on the road to get past" / "sometimes people are going to fast and some cars drive over the pavement" / "please make our street safer"
144 20/10/2023 11:18:00 20/10/2023 11:37:10 Completed Yes No Yes Preferred choice is option 3 in order to stop farming traffic, buses, numerous vans, cars and heavy vehicles using Fardalehill, Gleneagles Road for a shortcut to and from Western Road via Bonnyton Road.
Second choice would be option 1 in order to hopefully slow down or put off excess traffic from driving through Fardalehill.
145 24/10/2023 18:28:47 24/10/2023 18:30:12 Completed Yes No No As it is the only viable option for me. Staying on Muirfield drive would see my journey increase by at least 8 mins each way every time I leave my estate 
146 24/10/2023 21:07:23 24/10/2023 21:09:33 Completed Yes No No The estate is too large to have only one entrance, closing off Bonnyton road is not an option as it will only had to the traffic at the other end. I live on the estate and personally don’t think the traffic is that bad so I think speed cushions will do the trick at reducing the speed of cars
147 24/10/2023 21:09:56 24/10/2023 21:13:06 Completed Yes No No Closing off bonnyton road will only add to the traffic entering via Dalmahoy Drive. I constantly see children from phase 3 struggling to cross the road to the only park which is in phase 2. Closing bonnyton road will increase traffic on Dalmahoy drive and the risk to children. 
148 25/10/2023 21:47:53 25/10/2023 21:51:42 Completed No No Yes Of the 3 options this seems to be the only one that deals with the amount of through traffic that passes through the estate on a daily basis. 
149 29/10/2023 17:27:37 29/10/2023 18:23:55 Completed No Yes No I have chosen this option because I have to choose one. Why are there only three options ? Residents at the start of Gleneagles Road i.e. the first ten or so houses will not benefit from any of the options.

Option 1, speed cushions don't work. Vehicles will continue to accelerate up to them brake then accelerate away. This increases noise and pollution. Vehicles already have trouble manoeuvring round the tight corner on to Muirfield Drive , the bollards in place are constantly being knocked over.

Option 2 will never come to fruition. No one will agree to opening up Bonnyton Road even as a one way.

Option 3 will stop through traffic but increase traffic at Gleneagles Road which is a bottle neck at busy times.
The traffic especially at Dalmahoy Drive and Gleneagles Road enter this junction too fast along with cutting the corner. Vehicles heading to Dalmahoy Drive from Gleneagles Road then run along the soak away "pavement "  to avoid the oncoming traffic, endangering pedestrians . I have experienced this myself  nearly having the dog run over as we walked out of the driveway and yes it was on a lead !!
Impatient drivers don't realise that we can't see them as we leave the property and are often in the middle of the road as they enter from Dalmahoy Drive.

When we chose our house on Gleneagles Road we were told there would be a roundabout at the junction of Dalmahoy Drive and Bonnyton Road. We were not told Bonnyton Road would be closed. Residents complained about traffic at the end of Gleneagles Road to Bonnyton Road , bollards were put up. This forced the traffic to go by the kids playing area. Who in there right mind would agree to that. Surely other options are available. While the new site is under construction, would it not be possible to route the traffic from Knockentiber and Dalmahoy Drive towards Southhook Road ?
Maybe making the start of Gleneagles Road from Dalmahoy Drive a No Entry or a One Way from Dalmahoy Drive to Gleneagles Road , even as a trial period.
150 29/10/2023 21:05:29 29/10/2023 21:12:57 Completed No No Yes Dear Ayrshire Roads Alliance Team,
My responses to the proposed options and reasons are provided below:

Option 1- Traffic calming
Not required.
If speed “is generally not an issue” as stated according to your surveys and Option 3- Stopping-up Bonnyton Road is implemented thus eliminating any through traffic, then traffic calming measures are not required.  However, I accept that the installation of the pedestrian guard rails at the walkways leading onto Prestwick Place (2 of) and Muirfield Drive (1 but why not 2?) would be beneficial from a pedestrian safety aspect. It is not clear what the reinforced bollards on Prestwick Place are intended to do but if the aim is to prevent vehicles crossing over the mono-block area to prevent damage or even to prevent parking then this should also be implemented on Muirfield Drive adjacent to the proposed pedestrian guard rails where there is already some damage.

Option 2- Re-open Bonnyton Road
No, not immediately required but please consider counter proposal below.
From the Bellway plans, it appears that the newer build area, currently accessed via Kingsbarn Drive and Haggs Castle Walk from Bonnyton Road, will have an exit point onto Dalmahoy Drive sometime in the future connecting with the existing mini-roundabout on Dalmahoy Drive.  It is not clear what the timelines are for this and may alter the thinking on this.  It may not be necessary to assess and consider the re-opening of Bonnyton Road if the following counter proposal below is considered and implemented.
Counter proposal- In the short term and until the exit point to Dalmahoy Drive above is implemented, I would propose that the re-inforced bollards currently on Gleneagles Road (near the Bonnyton Road junction) be removed.  This would allow vehicle transit from Kingsbarn Drive and Haggs Castle Walk through Gleneagles Road and then connecting to Dalmahoy Drive.  This would provide the shortest and most efficient route until the road network has been extended.  It is not clear why the bollards on Gleneagles Road are still in place as they may have served their initial purpose which may have been to stop transit of construction traffic in the early build phases.

Option 3- Stopping-up Bonnyton Road
Yes
The closing off Bonnyton Road to all through traffic at the point at which the new section of road meets the old would eliminate through traffic. This would also negate the need for Option 1- Traffic calming measures as stated in the discussion above.  It would also take the strain off the older section of Bonnyton Road leading towards Munro Avenue as with the increasing volume of cars in the new residential areas, the road will become more and more heavily congested.  It is noticeable now that passing through this route and navigating space between parked cars will only become worse and may soon need designated passing places. 

Many thanks again for your considered approach to this issue and hopefully the points above assist with gaining a balanced compromise for everyone.

 


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